Money transfer apps like Venmo, Zell and Cash App have been growing in popularity during the pandemic -- but 8News has uncovered scammers have found a way with to use Cash App to con you of your cash. First she was really interested in buying without even taking a look. Your options for recovery if goods aren't received is close to nil. The first message he sent me (which I've found elsewhere online) was: "Is there anything I need to know about it? I'm sorry, just want to be sure about the sale before i proceed, i will be happy if you remove the AD from the site and consider me as your favourite buyer by ignoring all other offers. "I never thought I'd get scammed and believe it or not, after 12 years in the investigation game, I got scammed myself," he said. But the issue is i am an oceanographer and i have a contract now so am presently on sea. The scammers operate by contacting sellers and asking to buy items such as cars, machinery and mechanical parts, valued between $1,000 and $25,000, sight unseen. Here is an interesting link on how they use it in a scam. I suspect that after one or two withdrawals you would have picked it up but it is a possibility. and why are you selling it if you don't mind my asking. Or you will end up posting on OzBargain with the other hundred "got scammed on gumtree" threads. Find and share the best deals, promotional codes and vouchers from on and off the web. We recommend reporting the scam to Gumtree and ceasing all contact with the buyer. I will transfer the money to your account and my personal representative courier agent will meet you for the collection and deliver it to my new house in Riverton after you confirmed the payment. I am buying it for my new apartment and i want it delivered before my arrival.I won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted. I just gave Kim Phillips my bank details via email, so now s/he has my name, email address, approximate location and bank details. I smelt a rat, slowly I'll admit but mainly as I thought it unusual to get pretty much the same story (of being offshore and not having a phone) from two different people within minutes of ad posted and further one of the people first said he was Mark and in a later email his address was James. Technically, if somebody has your account details, they could set up a direct debit and have their insurance or gym membership paid courtesy of your bank account. If you're still concerned about giving out details, Mozo suggests opening an extra account (with no monthly fees) and keeping it separate from your main account. In the news article from ABC News, scammers were contacting people who were trying to sell their cars. Commonwealth Bank says that providing account details to a third party to receive or debit funds occurs daily and while this is OK it does advise that "any personal information, including banking details, should only be given if there is genuine need for a third party to know the details, ie, to receive funds or to set up a regular direct debit". Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy woman working all day, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my National Australia bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it for my Daughter. Use our online banking to transfer funds between your accounts. No. The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. Please contact me. "With the NPP comes PayID, which allows you to use your phone number or email address rather than a BSB or account number as a simpler form of identification when sending or receiving payments," says Mozo's Marshall. We do not have access to phone at the moment,its 5days off and 25days on,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info. Pity what the world has come to. Not only was this buyer quick to respond but she didn't even discuss the price, even though I said it was negotiable. Re: Is this a Paypal Scam on Gumtree I HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO ME Great! Thanks!". I'm cool with the condition as described on the advert. Disclosing either of those numbers does not allow someone to access your Paypal account, but we do recommend you take the safety precautions mentioned in the story. I did go through your advert and I am satisfied with it. I'm a member of the Australian Defence Force and our Australian personnel are also currently deployed to the Middle East Region for the Force Support Element (FSE) till December. Thank god I came across this as it saved me from fraud from her. US House members potentially exposed to COVID-19 during Capitol riot, Scammers clone myGov website, lure victims in with fake Medicare email, Insurance scammers kept calling our ABC office, so we answered and recorded it, For some MPs, the tyranny of distance is taking a heavy toll at home. Thanks Mick! Hi everyone, As I said, I got scammed. ie Direct debit agreement where payment goes to a merchant, as per the Clarkson example provided. "While unauthorised direct debits from accounts can and do occur, the possibility is relatively small given banks in Australia are generally required to verify signatures. My dad is selling a laptop on gumtree and someone phoned him tonight and offered him the asking price. i was looking to buy some sunglasses on gumtree and yes i know they are fake. Whilst I answered the questions I did not provide my bank account details. Nobody. When something is too good to be true, it isn't true. ING Direct says it is safe to give out your details but it recommends you monitor your account for unauthorised transactions. "If you're selling the item online and someone wants to buy the item sight unseen then that should be a bit of an alarm bell. I am ready to make the payment so get back to me with the details below : That is all I need in order to make the payment through a secure online bank transfer from my bank to yours. I was then told funds would be transferred but I needed to pay a courier $950 first I started to cotton on at this point and told him this is too werid and too much fuss for an old ute. I received same messages as 2 of above within minutes of posting my car on gumtree for sale. 4)Your personal mobile #, Kindly get back to me with your paypal email address or better still you can send me a paypal invoice so that i can complete the transaction. We do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. If you are still concerned, we recommend you contact your bank. If you are still concerned, you may want to contact your bank. So, we doctors perform with significant autonomy, and make medical decisions when necessary, I want it to be the perfect graduation gift for my daughter and am making it a surprise package as well for her, Are you the real first owner? I did and the email I got is essentially the same as others: This person is using the email address Esq Liam Veitch: It's so nice to read from you, Am really impressed in purchasing. Lol anyway here is his reply to my intial email. Personally, for gumtree i only do cash on pickup. What happened in your case in the end? 20 years on, the owner wants the land back, Five years on and much-hyped 'city deals' haven't lost lustre despite funding problems and delays, Ransomware attack causes three-week NT Government system shutdown, 'We've seen what happened to the people in NSW': Victorians stuck in Qld hope for doughnut day, Man who allegedly jumped off ship in breach of quarantine rules an 'unusual case', WA Premier says, I was overweight, my thinking felt slow and my sons called me 'Fatty'. "We do believe that word of mouth between the criminals has got out and it's now become more widespread," he said. The voluntary code commits banks that are signed up to it to a series of measures to tackle APP fraud, such as educating customers about scammers and how they work. How do I know this? After sending the fake documents, the scammers insist on sending a third party, usually a legitimate parcel delivery service, to collect the items from the seller before they realise the funds have not been transferred. I've just been through this while selling a car. But, there are no guarantees your bank will be able to recover the money through chargeback. Luckily it set of alarm bells and I rang PayPal who assured me that it's fake and they Never ask for items to be shipped before payment. In terest bearing with $500 minimum balance for US Based consumer accounts. Enjoyed reading that. I thought it was weird they were asking if it was still up for sale because I had just listed it. i just gave someone the account name bsb and account number. Oh no! I have a courier agent that would help me to pick it up at your preferred location after you have received your money and i'll pay you via PayPal once you are ready. A Real Girl's Guide to Money: From Converse to Louboutins. AEST = Australian Eastern Standard Time which is 10 hours ahead of GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). A person working remotely on an open ocean oil rig or defence job would have a very high paying job and wont bother with 2nd hand gumtree stuff. Agreed to do so then they supposedly sent funds through PayPal but they never arrived although I would receive a confirmation email SUPPOSEDLY from PayPal asking me to provide shipment tracking number and then my funds would be released. I replied asking if she was local to me and if a bank transfer or cash on collection would be possible. That's when alarm bells started ringing and I googled how safe it was to give my details and this was the first page it lead me to. I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to Darwin after the whole funds has been cleared into your acct. They in turn open up a paypal account - in your name, which is possible because Paypal do not do a 100 point check. Thanks for getting back mate, I'm ok with the condition as described on the advert and what price are you willing to sell without the reg and rwc. I will need your Account name, BSB and Account number. It is one phone call: hi I want this thing picked up from here and delivered here. account with PayPal on their website it takes less than 2 minutes and I Total nightmare. COVID could spark a shift, They built their own town when no-one else wanted them. I will need this following details so i can proceed with the payment right away. Below is the email I received. he says to pay buy bank transfer and they will be sent recorded post, also another person says i can pay buy paypal but it just seems dodgy to me check these links out and tell me what you think, thaaanking you . I've just been through similar thing several times regarding a gold necklace I had for sale on gumtree. If you are not comfortable with that, you can set up a PayPal account properly at www.PayPal.com.au and I will make the payment through PayPal, this way, all I will need is your PayPal email address. I am buying it for my for my holiday and i want it delivered before my arrival.I won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted.Regarding the payment,pls get back to me with your final asking price and your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb and acct number if you have no paypal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. It was as if an alert had gone out that a new victim was online. I would appreciate if you email me with more pictures (if available) too since i won't be be able to see this in person,what's the PayPal email to send funds to in order for me to pay you ASAP,And if you don't have a paypal account, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up. Everybody beware of davidowizkid87@gmail.com. Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy man working all day,am a Marine official, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account ,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in NT for my son .Await your reply .Best regards. Company name he used was falcon oil and gas in beetaloo basin Northern Territory. and why are you selling if you don't mind my asking. Scam Message I just received from edwardbrandonlee89 @ gmail.com in response to an ad I posted in Gumtree: Thanks a lot for the email. This is very late to the party, but this would only then mean you need to swipe a statement from the bank if the target still uses paper bills.. the "reference numbers" are 2 sub 5c amounts deposited into your account. Anyway I ignored the niggling feeling because I was a bit excited I had a potential buyer so quickly. 2) Paypal email address, I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info. If you did the bank transfer you will have his bank account number in whicn the police or your bank can action to reverse the transfer … I am trying to sell my car on Gumtree and Car Sales. Oh dear I am afraid I have been scammed well I definitely have. Each one said working offshore/OVERSEAS could I post it to them. Click for current rate information. But in fact the cheque is forged, the bank transfer hasn’t happened at all or the payment receipt you’ve received to your email is fake. Phew, just got one in response to my car listing, Wizkid Davido Seven ways to help your small business flourish this year, listed some furniture for sale on Gumtree, Neobank Xinja pulls out of Australia just a year after launching, Ponzi schemes to Panama Papers: Seven financial scams that shook the world. "Registering for a PayID is done within your usual mobile or internet banking and requires you to go through a number of identification and verification steps. How I wish I could come for viewing and inspection as am currently busy due to the nature of my work and can you assure me that it's in good condition and that I will not be disappointed with it, I want it picked up before I get back. Sure it requires a bit more set up but would then allow a correctly set up scammer to be totally 100% untraceable (you could then make purchases to another household address, track and intercept, or you could order items delivered to an empty house etc..) from there you could monetize the asset or just revel in your new, and free 70 inch flat screen, or whatever. A quick search on her "employer's" website revealed this scam warning: "New Zealand Oil & Gas does not directly employ staff on offshore platforms. I'm posting these here so other people can find them and avoid getting ripped off by dodgy Gumtree buyers. Call 0300 123 2040 or use their online cybercrime reporting form. He responded with: "Good, I can only make the payment from my PayPal to your PayPal account or seriously if u had 1000$ to spend on something would u buy it over price from gumtree in another country and have it sent to another city where u aren't without so much as inspecting the item? Queensland police said the scam originated in Brisbane but had become increasingly prevalent across south-east Queensland. we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. to me. I work in a Military. Where is it located at the moment? Why aren't you writing in coherent sentences?????! Just almost got scammed. Gumtree scams - the tricks criminals use to catch you out and how to use the online marketplace safely Thousands of people use Gumtree to shop and buy every day - … A spokeswoman for Gumtree said user safety and security was their main priority. Which leads me back to the question, is it safe to give out your bank account numbers? They then link your bank account to the Paypal account they set up using nothing more than an email address (i.e. They make “payment”, sending the seller a fake PayPal transaction summary. I just received a text message from someone named 'Jane Brock' saying she was interested to buy my gym equipment and advised she will transfer the money on paypal and asked me to share my bank account details. I ended up here thanks to your comment. i am buying this for my first son who just graduated on top of his class at Aviation University ,I want it to be the perfect graduation gift for him and am making it a surprise package ,Does it have any history I should be aware of? We do not have access to phone at the moment, its 5days off and 25days on which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. I have notified my bank to be wary of unauthorised account debits, but I'm concerned about the possibility of identity theft. I came to the guy's house to pay and got a laptop with super glue on it (They're noticeable, but I thought they were specks of dust). I contacted Ron hicks and demand cash or a bank transfer. Great! Your bank account requires a BSB and account number. of these types of emails. Within half an hour of posting my son's bed I got a message from "Anita" asking if it was still available and, if so, could I contact her via email. The above responses are invaluable to me. Ironically, it was he who suggested I could be a scammer. Do you know who buys a 2nd hand vehicle over price and wants it shipped 2000km without even inspecting? I am away at sea at the moment,i work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kapo project. The scammers operate by contacting sellers and asking to buy items such as cars, machinery and mechanical parts, valued between $1,000 and $25,000, sight unseen. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. Just log on to www.paypal.com. We do not have access to receive calls at the moment,its 15 days off and 15 days on,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. I suspect I will receive no further contact from Kim Phillips! So they are still red hot at it! Assume he will have to change his email address from now on to further scam people. Subsequently found this blog. Rates are subject to change at any time at bank’s discretion. Published by Aimee Davis. There's a reason Gumtree prefers all transactions to take place locally and in person - there are shady characters online. How far has the UK COVID-19 variant spread and what pace is it moving at? Whatever the ending that waited for me, the thought of giving her my bank account details concerned me. Someone contacted me offering to pay the price I have requested. what's your final price? 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