The Gui showed my about ~125MB/s for each disk. Now HGST has taken their helium technology and expanded capacity even further with the Ultrastar Helium He8 8TB … I don’t need more info on PMR. WD100EMAZ - the AZ suffix and 256MB cache strongly indicates SMR. More power than that in the radio brings no benefit, except if the radio is used in DMO. daitro on 08/07/2020 - 14:41 . So… Talk about incompetence and a lethargic response - like they didn’t even give a ■■■■. 1 WD-WX21D689KFDL And need to know if these are PMR or SMR. WD knows exactly what they’re selling, naturally. It was SMR. Note that currently, the MAX capacity drive using SMR is the 6TB WD60EFAX, with 3 platters / 6 heads… So… is that it?? I'm out. You can refer the link provided below for more information on PMR technology. © 2021 Best Buy. Customers MUST be informed of this new tech, even those using EXTERNAL SINGLE DRIVES ENCLOSURES!!! This is the optimal output power and it guarantees maximum coverage or maximum PMR range. And thus likely resulted in a ton of RMA’s (bit’em in the ass a little). WesternDigital continues to “hide” what technology is used in your hard disk. The difference in write tech is just the density. Too bad WD doesn’t help the customer know that information without making (the customer) wade through a ridiculous branding scheme of meaningless colors.And even then they’re not telling you everything. https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-red-hdd/data-sheet-western-digital-wd-red-hdd-2879-800002.pdf. Hey Boss, WD is being sued over this. (One month late because I've been lazy.) Easystore WD 10… The 8TB EasyStore contains a WD80EMAZ helium drive (up until late 2017 the NAS Red drives WD80EFX). I don’t want a mechanical disk that overlaps tracks and has to write adjacent tracks just to write a specific track!!! Therefore, it's possible you didn't get a drive using SMR depending on when you purchased it. garetz on 08/07/2020 - 08:27 ... these won't contain a WD100EMAZ, but instead a WD101EMAZ. ... Seen as im using SHR raid Ive decided to expand my array with either 8 or 10 tb drives which still seem to be PMR drives for now and they still are vastly available. Well, i got new for you: crystaldiskinfo CAN!!! Stupid WD support… ). I have many WD external drives, and i DON’T WANT any drive with SMR!!! In-store pricing may vary. Called tech support, the 1st agent did not know what PMR or SMR are. At the time of writing, this drive can be bought for £292 in the UK and $324 in the US if sourced from Amazon. They are conventional PMR drives with NAS firmware. Listed below: ST8000VX002 ST8000VX008 SMR ST6000VX011 ST6000VX010 SMR ST4000VX005 ST4000VX013 SMR ST3000VX017 ST3000VX016 SMR ST2000VX012 ST2000VX015 SMR . I have 1 TB, three 3 TB, one 6 TB and three 8 TB drives that all work well and have for many years, especially the very old 1 and 3 TB drives I bought when they first came out. (1) WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0 : 2000,3 GB [1/0/0, sa1] - wd This thread explains a lot… Thanks guys!! PMR - Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (both CMR and SMR type drives use it). SMR not so fast, it’s unreliable, has bug-ridden firmware, is slow, and just seems the wrong way to push storage tech. (3) WDC WD1600BEVS-22UST0 : 160,0 GB [3/0/0, sa1] - wd. SMR drives are completely unsuitable for for a NAS or performance disk. We found SMR can put data at risk 13-16x longer than CMR, Someone said this is part of a RACE for BIGGER capacities. I think it’s very unfortunate and quite disappointing that WD has no idea what kind of drives they’re selling, and worse still, SMR drives have a lot of problems that WD is not standing behind. Is WD USING RAID / more demanding users as “guinea pigs” to test SMR and then move on and use SMR on +14TB drives??? Not that anyone would want a mechanical drive as a startup device in this day and age. FYI, the 10TB uses a similar WD100EMAZ helium drive. WD technicians don’t have a way to query the drive and ask for the model number?? https://www.cdrinfo.com/d7/content/wd-lists-hard-disk-drives-use-slower-smr-technology. It’s the principle behind it all. I need to know which of the drives support it or not. AND GET THIS! Hello, i just switched my system to 6x WD120EDAZ 12TB Drives. Shingled Magnetic Recording (SMR) suffers from reduced write speed, sometimes a lot. The UltraStar, Enterprise, Gold, and Purple series aren’t disclosed either. Sounds to me like the head loses the track and tries to relocate itself. (EDIT -> COPY or CTRL-C). Western Digital provides data storage solutions, including systems, HDD, Flash SSD, memory and personal data solutions to help customers capture and preserve their most valued data. WD 10TB RED SATA NASware 3.0 3.5" SATA III Internal NAS Hard Drive 256mb WD100EMAZ Pulled out of a brand new external. Updated table : 23/04/2020 And a supervisor said they can’t disseminate the information I’m asking for. No more ADVANCED FORMAT ■■■■ nor SMR. In fact they use the technology on mainstream devices like boot drives. Seller: jennifeholli_4 (485) 100%, Location: Denver, Colorado, Ships to: US & many other countries, Item: 283243145223 Western Digital 10tb White Label (OEM Red) WD100EMAZ 5400rpm 256MB Cache NEW. It seems SMR is used to push capacity sooner than PMR is ready for, but they eventually seem to make some (bought a WD gold 7200 RPM drive that’s PMR). JoeySmyth. That means these drives have to use SMR, the slower performer. Gladly, i checked my WD ELEMENTS drives, a NONE of the internal drives is PLAGUED by SMR! I bought 3 of them recently and shucked them. All rights reserved. WD was “forced” to start indicating what drives are using SMR. WTF is that??? Well spoken, Thread UPDATE: If your drive has WD-"AX-AZ- I think A Period. This is a helium-filled 256MB cache drive, like the WD Red 10TB solution. The popularity of Network-Attached Storage (NAS) systems has fuelled a surge in demand for large capacity hard disk drives. Today, we are going to look at the first helium-filled WD Red model – the 10TB WD Red (WD100EFAX) NAS drive!. User rating, 4.7 out of 5 stars with 5647 reviews. It can be… BUT, before that happens, WD is probably using the most demanding customers / environments to TEST SMR tech so they can DEPLOY them in the bigger capacity DRIVES: 8, 10, 12, 14TB and beyond (do not currently exist). Hard drives were already bad at random access I/O—but SMR disks are worse. Unhelpful (2) They are conventional PMR drives with NAS firmware. I hear you completely. HM-SMR - Host Managed Shingled Magnetic Recording. Pricing. You might have to call WD Support and give them the serial number, from there they might able to find out for you if HDD is SMR or PMR drives. This may have been the case 2 years ago but times change. garetz on 08/12/2020 - 09:44 +1 vote. CMR. They wouldn’t replace it because I took it out of a MyBook enclosure. https://support-en.wd.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20230. How about that? Filled out an online email form and received no answer. Easystore WD 10TB Drive Shuck #2. I just had a 10 Tb drive I paid over 200 USD for and it dies after 2 months. Also fine. It seems like a marketing TEST!!! This because certain drives earmarked for use in NAS were not really living up to the performance expected. WD doesn't advertise which new drives in the 2TB-6TB range use this technology. I have DOZENS of them, mostly external! Only way to find out is to buy one and discover it's got poor write speeds, apparently. Called tech support, the 1st agent did not know what PMR or SMR are. So now, according to this article, they have made a small attempt at indicating what technology is used and in what drives. List of WD CMR and SMR hard drives (HDD) Updated table : 23/10/2020. I have two drives WD60EZAZ-00ZGGHBO and WD60EZRZ-00GZ5B1 And need to know if these are PMR or SMR. The WD Red Family Drives found in these can be WD100EMAZ (rebadged WD HGST Ultrastar He10/WD Ultrastar DC510 Helium drives) and WD101EMAZ (rebadged WD UltraStar DC HC330 drives). While that also sounds like a win for consumers, these drives are not suitable for NAS environments due to their... We tested WD Red SMR v CMR drives to see if there was indeed a significant impact with the change. Using SMR technology instead of conventional magnetic recording allows HDD manufacturers to put out denser drives at cheaper prices. The most I got was a 25% coupon… lol Anyway, I asked multiple times about 10 TB drives that were PMR… I asked for model numbers or better still, links to them. You can read my write up about SMR on my site. And after some coaxing, said that they are both PMR, but that doesn’t make sense because of the weight of the drives and their buffer sizes. It will only use up its battery faster. WD60EZAZ-00ZGGHBO Just got my black friday WD Easystore opened. And after some coaxing, said that they are both PMR, but that doesn’t make sense because of the weight of the drives and their buffer sizes. Aztán a PMR (CSM) / SMR HDD is kérdés lehet, ahol az utóbbiaknál köztudott a technológiából adódó (esetleges) belassulás , ahol az SMR manapság csaknem kb. People are reporting firmware corruption, file system corruption (happened to me before it died) and slow speeds after the 30-40 GB temporary space (PMR) on the edges of the platters is filled, leaving you with ~20 MB/s SMR write speeds. The WD101EFAX also seems to be the replacement for it but both can still be purchased off Amazon with the WD101EFAX being about $10 more. Filled out an online email form and received no answer. Using SMR technology instead of conventional magnetic recording allows HDD manufacturers to put out denser drives at cheaper prices. PMR, or Perpendicular Magnetic Recording, is a method in which magnetization takes place horizontally and vertically on platters. ... At least its not SMR. I say this because, WD has the same “infected SMR drives” using the well known PMR tech! In other words, a radio transmitting at 1,5 W or even at 3 W will not get any more PMR radio range. jebusx June 25, 2019, 2:27pm #2. But fine for archival and backup disks. Point is both are proven tech for several decades. minden (2-4 TB-osokat is) 2,5"-os belső és külső HDD-t érint és a 3,5"-osok egy részét is. And a supervisor … I would fully expect such information to be indicated on the product datasheet. There is no clear marking of which technology is being used. Check for TRIM support, if it is present then it is definitely SMR. It said something like “using WD’s PMR technology…” (in other words, the original way used since at least the 80’s). I have two drives Has fewer than 5 start/stops and less than 5 minutes of use based on SMART … I removed WD from our preferred suppliers list unless it’s used material - which then goes into something else - suited for refurb material. This interest led Western Digital to create the WD Red NAS-optimised family of hard disk drives. BEST BUY, the BEST BUY logo, the tag design, and MY BEST BUY are trademarks of Best Buy and its affiliated companies. The second “technician” said SMR stands for Standard Metabolic Rate! Now also Seagate Skyhawk have few SMR drives. and 6 months ago. But there are still low-cost, pennies matter, systems being sold - likely to be purchased users not in the know. 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