| | This subject is important to me as a dog lover and pit bull owner. May 27, 2011 at 12:13 PM. May 18, 2011 at 11:23 PM. If the 1 in 600 number were to be true, this would mean for each of these adopted pit bulls, there would be 599 that was killed at a shelter. I am recently involved in the fight to keep a nearby city (Saginaw, MI) from enacting BSL and one thing I have discovered is that for every good factual claim we make, they dig out competing garbage claims, often from the misunderstood CDC study or the horrid Clifton "study" - and since the BSL opposition (us) only has the opportunity to speak in little 3 minute segments at the city council meetings, which the city council members can "rebut" for nearly unlimited time, it becomes this odd game of dueling statistics. @Lindsay: that's just a website with some great pictures of dogs with kids, that's become viral right now. I always wonder how a math-heavy post will go over... Emily -- I've heard the "nanny dog" thing for years. Pit Bull Prejudice Contact Us. An Honest Look at Pit Bulls By Laurie Lawless Submitted in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for a Degree in Professional Writing: Journalism & Freelance Submitted on 8 December 2011 WRT 465/Thesis Advisor: Prof. John P. Briggs !! Error type: Best Friends No More Homeless Pets Conference 2013, Late Night Musings: Clearing the Shelters, Why Animal Welfare Advocates Should Vote for Jolie Justus for Mayor of Kansas City, Late Night Musings: Leading by example and the changing image of pit bulls (and cats!) These tear-jerking statistics make me glad that I support a shelter like Saved Me, which helps lower these statistics. User account menu • 1 in 600 pits has a home. The statistic for pit bulls is not as optimistic with some findings stating only 1 in 600 will be adopted, with the rest being euthanized. the pit bull a "nanny dog"? url = url.replace( /#/, "" ); As others have said, THANKS for doing the math and showing how this number can't possibly be true. That means 1.4 million of the owned pit bulls out here were aquired via adoption. Nearly 600 pit bulls and roosters were removed from two properties in Indiana after authorities received a tip that the animals were allegedly being trained for fighting. An award-winning photographer has made it her mission to change these stats. All were historically bred for two purposes: to control vermin and to fight. This number seems really high to me, especially when we try to tout that dogs are safer that most other things. The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. If 24% of all 'pit bulls' were adopted from shelters, that would mean that each year, roughly 150,000 of the 625,000 new 'pit bulls' taken into homes would be adopted from shelters (not 1,333 - which would be the number if the "1 in 600" were true). I've taken to asking people who use it where they got it from & they always cite some other website, never a study, etc. Over 75% of shelters euthanize pit bulls right after they`ve been taken in. I'm so glad to see you apply your analytical skills to exposing it. Please try again. Still looking for the "study" to confirm this (and to see how they worked the math). Whew! The statistic, which you've likely heard before, is that "1 in 600 pit bulls finds a home". Abstract Over the last 30 years pit bulls have come to be perceived in the United States as dangerous and destructive animals. Pit Bulls are the Caucasian Males of the Dog World. is that poodles WERE originally hunting dogs... they're just not used for that purpose in this country now. There are some shelters where the number is higher than that -- but a large number that have very few pit bulls in them. but then back in the 60s Cockers (also a hunting breed) didn't have a coat that dragged the floor, either. ), Posted by: Lange said that those traits can be passed down, but there are other factors too that can determine a dog’s behavior. View an alternate. And there's something else that's funny about the way these stats are thrown around. window.location=permalink+"?pintix=1"; I finally got people to stop saying that. Posted by: Especially too many dogs being killed because someone thinks they might be "pit bulls" and automatically unadoptable. CristyF | 1 in 600 pit bulls get out of animal shelters alive. May 17, 2011 at 01:36 PM. May 17, 2011 at 01:57 PM. Wow, hadn't heard that! It's generally not your beloved family pet politicians are picturing when they are considering BSL. Having sad that, I totally get that the original statistic you talk about is wrong. Sadly, we receive approximately 1,000 requests per week to take unwanted Pit Bulls. Thank you! Check this out I used it as a referance on my Pit Bull paper. Although Out of the Pits had been helping owners spay and neuter their Pit Bulls for many years on an informal basis, a few years ago we launched an official “Fix-A-Bull” spay-neuter program. Emily -- thanks for posting the CDC numbers - -and yes, that's the source. A necklace bail has been securely attached that will fit any 3mm size chain or smaller. Mini Pitbulls inherit their short stature from their Patterdale parent. Because of this terrible past, they are still misunderstood today for being vicious and deadly. Shelter statistics are equally staggering – it is estimated that more than 80% of Pit Bulls in shelters are euthanized, and typically only 1 in 600 Pit Bulls finds a loving home. But I've tried to provide a fair representation of the numbers. Posted by: In the 12 years since, you can bet that the Pit Bull population has only grown larger. But I know 1 in 600 is not the right number. EmilyS, I'm with you on the "dogfighting" thing. The CDC, JAMA, and other "scientific journals" have been persistent in publishing what amounts to "junk science" when it comes to dog attacks and dog bites. But this number gets us to about 800,000 'pit bulls' killed in shelters each year. Specifically, it says, "...APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children." August 22, 2011 at 06:01 PM. May 17, 2011 at 11:30 AM, I recently read that this "statistic" comes from a "study" by Animal People, which I am guessing is the same Animal People with which Merritt Clifton is associated. Dog bites vs dog attacks -- What determines the difference? Don’t judge a dog by its name. If they are unclaimed by their owner -- with evidence of ownership such as a veterinary bill -- within three business days, the animals are euthanized. “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”. That's really good - no one likes a drunk nanny. Being a Caucasian male AND a pit bull owner (4 actually) myself, I can attest to alot contained in this article. That is why in 2006, our organization began to take form and realize its purpose: Dont Educate, EXPOSE!!!! This prevents automated programs from posting comments. I find that I have to try a different tactic, though, than to throw accurate stats at them, as they are not capable of evaluating good from bad stats and just fall back on whichever "data" they want to believe. Thanks, Brent. A fairly recent research study from GfK Roper indicates that  30% of all pets are gotten from shelters or rescues (this is for dogs and cats -- cat numbers tend to be lower because people have a higher tendency to "take in" cats). When we exaggerate, we lose effectiveness... which is the point Brent is making as well. And Brent, your post about how "Your city is broke" (also kind of a math post) was also unexpectedly popular. But if the situation for pit bulls is dire in say, Detroit, it's not in my small town, where they are not by any means the dominant shelter dog (which would be Lab types). Recently, I saw someone up the number to 1 in 700! } else if ( query != "pintix=1" ) { Posted by: Of those 2 million,  based on the percentages from a lot of the data from urban shelters around the country, about 40% or so of the dogs killed in the shelters are "pit bull" type dogs. May 24, 2011 at 08:30 PM. var url = document.URL; KC DOG BLOG: How well can we really identify breeds of dogs? Please enable JavaScript if you would like to comment on this blog. When the reporter asked this woman which breed was perfect for a family with small children, the woman replied "NONE of them", and then went on to explain how it's more about training, etc. r/BanPitBulls: A subreddit for discussing the inherent dangers of pit bulls, exposing the pro-pit propaganda lobby, and debunking lies about the … Press J to jump to the feed. 1. My own sister (who did vaccinate her children)still wanted to argue with me about the validity of that study EVEN AFTER IT WAS FINALLY DEBUNKED. Hospital reports maybe? Dogmen consider pit bull terriers, who they commonly call "100% bulldogs," to be the ultimate canine gladiator. Through our work, we hope to protect both people and pets from future attacks. 1. Alan Beck, director of the Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine Center of the Human-Animal Bond, favors letting the breed go into extinction.“This breed alone is a risk of serious public health factors,” Beck said. It is part of the UKC description of the APBT (actually, part of the actual standard, as I read it) that these dogs were considered good with children. Laura, I thought a lot about the "are pit bulls' more likely to be purchased or gotten from a friend than adopted from a shelter question. Propagating this breed is just wrong. Lori S. | This pendant is made out of recycled game tile. Posted at 10:14 AM in Mythbusting, Pit Bulls | Permalink, | A very small percentage of them were actually used for their original purpose and an even smaller percentage excelled at their job, and those were the ones that were bred. May 27, 2011 at 06:24 PM. Pro-pit bull groups advocate for responsible pet ownership that is not breed-specific. When it comes to dog laws, everyone's an expert, KC DOG BLOG: BSL/MSN - Discussion (Part 4 of 4), KC DOG BLOG: BSL/MSN San Francisco (part 3.5 of 4), KC DOG BLOG: Next up, Kansas City (Part 3), KC DOG BLOG: BSL/MSN in San Francisco (Part 2 of 4), Tammy Grimes, Chaining Dogs and where Property Rights People are Wrong, Why everyone should insist cities use information (Part 6 and Final), Data that is getting close to information, Why you can't trust people's breed ID (Part 3). 1 in 600. Whereas the APBT was NEVER termed a "nanny dog"... Americans of the class that evidently owned APBTs did NOT have "nannies" and that term was not common in this country. Submit. We used to have instructors in puppy and beginner classes that would say, "Look around - only one dog in six will stay in its home". To be historical, you'd have to find it in a source from say, 1900-1930, the period of these wonderful photographs. It seems at least that with so many cities with BSL, so many shelter that simply refuse to adopt out pit bulls, and too many rescues who have such harsh standards for adopters that it is virtually impossible to adopt from them, that 'pit bulls' would likely have a lower percent adopted than other types of dogs. And third - where did this number come from? I guess I shouldn't complain - look at that horrific junk science study on autism that came out of the UK on vaccinations and how that affected people vaccinating their children. A necklace bail has been securely attached that will fit any 3mm size chain or smaller. Brent makes some reasonable assumptions.. but they're just that (and as he notes, he can't make the figures produce that 1 in 600 thing however he adjusts them). Keyword: *Trained. Parents with autistic children are so desperate for an answer and help they are still trying to sue vaccine manufacturers based on that study. There was another statistic we used to hear a lot, but I haven't heard it lately, and it was "only one in six dogs stays in its original home". DON'T OVER BREED! One of the aims of The Pit Bull Foundation is to rehabilitate these dogs until they can be adopted out into forever homes. This pendant is made out of recycled game tile. Animal People News recently reported that "U.S. shelters kill about 1.4 million dogs per year, including 750,000 pit bulls … Now, the SBT allegedly IS called the "nanny dog" in England but none of the SBT experts I have asked has ever found an historical reference to support the use of that term.. they speculate that it is was someone's promotional gimmick. Thanks to everyone for the "nanny dog" explanation. In this country, it is generally agreed upon that somewhere between 4 -4.5 million animals are killed in shelters every year. Copyright © 2007-2021 DogsBite.org   |   Published by Lynn Media Group, DogsBite.org is a national dog bite victims' group dedicated to reducing serious dog attacks. And of course, all the studies I have seen suggest that most shelter workers are no more able to identify dog breeds than the average citizen. Post Sep 23, 2009 #1 2009-09-23T01:57 VS I don't want idiots coming here telling me that "One paw swipe from bear and it's all over" - Yes common sense but these are fighting pitbulls that have the fighting mentality, these are man made monsters & by far the best fighting dog for their size, I'd go with the dogs in this match up because the bear is overpowered in this match up. Given (1) attitudes towards pit bulls in general, (2) some of the demographics that own pit bulls, and (3) BSL and breed bans, do you think that those percentages are really similar? May 17, 2011 at 02:12 PM. May 17, 2011 at 11:37 AM. I think especially considering all the "backyard breeding" going on with this family of breeds, that the percentage of owned pit bulls (or pit-bull type dogs) that were adopted would be lower. EmilyS | PetDocsOnCall09 | Your comment could not be posted. Main Of the approximate 3.9 million dogs that enter the shelter system, about 1.4 million, or one in three, make it out. 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